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Dumb-rider

Posted by jsmill on June 8, 2007

Ok, I’m a commuter in Perth, Western Australia.

Everyday I catch the train to and from work – 1 zone - one stop if I catch the express, 4 stops if I don’t.

I have been catching this same train for about three years now. 

Everything was working pretty smoothly – until one day they announce a wonderful new system that would revolutionise the way we travel on public transport… Smartrider! A new smart-card system where you load credit onto your card, tag onto the system when you travel, tag off the system when you arrive and it automatically calculates your fare and deducts it from your balance.

The old Multi-riders were to be done away with – Smartrider was the way of the future. It would make all our lives sooo much better and easier. So, like a chump, I thought I’d change over (wouldn’t have mattered if I hadn’t – they eventually forced you to by getting rid of the whole multirider system).

Smartrider is marketed to the public as “new, fast and efficient. So, why wait when you can get on board today?”

Let me tell you – it may be new but it is neither fast nor efficient and waiting is what you will constantly do.

Under the old multirider system I never had to queue at a validating machine, I got my bulk purchase discount for a 40 ride card and could pay for it with a credit card, I never got charged for rides I didn’t take and I never got hit with default fares for failing to tag off the system (more on this later).

Now, with Smartrider, I have to queue every day at a validating machine when I get off my train. The machine is sometimes temperamental so some people have to swipe multiple times. And the system requires double handling – one swipe on the system – one swipe off the system. This must be half as efficient as the old system that just required one swipe.

Now the only way I can get my full discount is to hand over my bank account details to Transperth (and not a credit card either – must be a savings account) and allow them to debit my account whenever my balance falls below a certain point. You used to get a discount for bulk puchasing in advance – now it doesn’t matter if you load $10 or $10 million in advance onto your card – no full discount without handing over your bank account details.

I have been hit twice for default fares – and both times it was an error. When I queried the charge both times I was told it was a mistake caused by a double scan – I got my refund but how many people have been stung and didn’t bother complaining or simply weren’t sure?

I have a friend who tagged onto the system one day – waited 30 mins for a train then caught a ride home with a friend in his car. Tried to tag off the system at the same station – hit with a default fare! How is that right?

The new system is a big step backwards.

Anyone else have any similar problems?

4 Responses to “Dumb-rider”

  1. DumbRider2 said


    Please visit – contribute and grow – This site is a celbration of Transperths numerous and uncesing screw ups, bad service and shocking Bus and Train Service.

  2. To add insult to injury – I also went for the autoload (under duress) because I wanted to continue the 25% discount I (a loyal customer of Transperth’s for over 10 years) had been previously receiving. It’s only recently I realised that by jumping straight onto autoload I paid $16 for my Smartrider – not $10. $10 bought for the card, and $6 I can never touch because autoload won’t let you go under a $6 balance without automatically making a deduction from your bank account.

  3. James said

    This is a rip off. I loaded 50 credit onto my card bringing the total up to 63. This only lasted for 3 weeks, when in fact it should have lasted for 4 1/2 weeks.

    I catch the bus twice per day, so the amount per week should be (2sections@$1.36)*2*5 = 13.6

    63/13.6 = 4.6 Weeks.

    What a joke, if I take this card to transperth will they refund my money? Is there even a way to tell what has gone wrong? I highly doubt it somehow.

  4. Baphomet's Left Nad said

    Dear James

    Call the Transperth infoline and ask to talk to someone on the SmartRider team. They can tell you what’s gone wrong. Did you do this before you decided to whine on an online forum to a bunch of people who can’t help you?

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